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I'm curious about something. I've always been told IQ tests are uniquely visual e.g. resolve a diagram dilemma within a limited amount of time. I'm curious, is it possible for a blind person to take an IQ test?
I know the philosophical arguments for and against, I'm merely curious as to where I'd come down on it. That Meyers Briggs shrink test was pretty blunt and inept but that isn't a rational or intelligence test.
I've been reading a couple of rational philosophy works of late which have made me curious. Beforehand I never thought tooo much about the IQ situation based on the recent (last 3 decades') arguments against its validity. I am curious to see for myself, though.
Interesting question, Leo.
I happen to know that Mensa isn't able to administer their tests to prospective blind members. They do accept other so-called qualifying test results, though. Here in Texas at least, most blind people are given IQ tests by psychologists hired by the department of blind services, and Mensa accepts those.
One of my blind friends did manage to qualify, but he wasn't sure of the validity of his score. Some of the questions had nothing to do with his ability to solve problems. For example, he was asked to name the author of Alice in Wonderland.
Hi Leo. I had to sit an IQ test as a child as part of tribunal proceedings against
my local education authority so that I could go to a particular school. I've no
idea to what extent the test was adapted if at all from the norm.
Interesting, guys.
Voyager, the IQ test does cover knowledge of culturally-known facts so that is probably why you were asked for the author of Alice In Wonderland. This is why some objectors object to it.
Someone as a joke sent me one of the "emotional intelligence" tests which I found to be stupid as all diggety fuck, meaningless and insipid, but probably very fun and exciting for the social justice furries and gender studies majors.
These people would not survive an economic collapse, nor would they have survived the end of the last ice age.
I took an IQ test when I was eight or nine and scored higher then average. This test had no pictures and was administered by someone who obviously had experience giving IQ tests to people that for some reason could not take standard ones. I took another online IQ test about 10 years ago and scored 100. Some of the questions were pictures so I had to guess. Based on the fact that I was average when taking a test that had pictures I had to guess at I would say the origional test was at least somewhat valid given the fact that it was taken when I was younger and all the general issues that go along with IQ tests apply.
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yes blind people can take IQ tests. I've never taken one that I know of, but the subject has come up recently cause someone thought it may be necessary to do, at some point.
I've never taken one or been asked to.
I had no idea how they were done until I read this.
I've never taken one myself, though I had heard they can be adapted. I'd be curious how I would score on one. Leo, I like your term, "stupid as all diggety fuck." LOL.
Wonderlic is an example of an intellegence test that
has been modified for nonvisual takers. You also get to take it untimed vs. sighted takers.
I spend a considerable amount of time studying and tossing out aptitude and related tests given I feel that they aren't standardized for blind takers. I also feel the extra time in the Wonderlic gives unsighted participants an unfair advantage.
So the answer is "yes" there are intelligence tests out there that claim to be unsighted friendly, but in my experience, they all have factors that make them unequal to comparison/scoring on a standardized scale against standard test takers.
I didn't realize IQ tests could be adapted until I read this. I'm curious how I would score, too.
I believe blind people can meaningfully take IQ tests. There are definitely parts that wouldn't be blind friendly and therefore biased against. I have taken an IQ test twice with sight, although visually impaired. This was some years ago, so the details are few but I remember pictures of patterns that you had to copy or perhaps analyze and actual physical diagrams that you had to copy involving color. Physical diagrams could easily be given tactile differentiations but it certainly takes more time to feel things than it does to look at them, we're probably talking mere seconds upwards to a minute just to evaluate the original structure to copy so time differentiations are necessary.
BTW, one of the questions I was asked was "Who was Madame Curie?" I said, "Umm I don't know but I know there is a book with her name in the title." I made sure I found out after that!
Fine. What are IQ test worth? Smile.
That wasn't the original question! There are different scores for different parts of the test,by the way, so while some parts wouldn't be accessible, some would.
People measure themselves against the general population all of the time, we compare how much money we make compared to our co-workers, our neighbors, our friends and our family. We compare our physical attractiveness, our electronic gadgets, how many friends we have on FB, how many cars we have, how independent we are, the list is endless. This is just one more measure/comparison.
I guess I'm odd.
I don't compare myself to anyone else.
Sure, I notice others have more money, and such, but I am not bothered by it unless they are taking from me to get whatever it is.
I figure, I'm living my life, so if I'm dumb as a post.... Smile.
If an IQ test had a cure, it be worth while, but I don't believe they can fix you, unless you've not had education.
So, sure, I know the question, but other then comparing, what good are they?
It is probably done a little differently.